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My autogynephilia story

AGP drove my own transsexualism. But in a debate where the condition is simultaneously denied and monstered, it is unsurprisingly also misunderstood.

We are fuelling the fantasies of impressionable children

Autogynephilia — literally “to love oneself as a woman” — is controversial stuff. Men are not supposed to fancy themselves; at least they weren’t when I grew up in the Eighties. Back then, the idea that any of us might be “sexually aroused by the thought or image of our self as a girl” was unthinkable.

Kathleen Stock recently suggested in UnHerd that autogynephilia (AGP) was a motive for “some but not all within the male trans demographic” to immerse themselves in the fiction of changing sex. Ray Blanchard, the sexologist who coined the terminology, went further. Last year, he told me that “in the Western Hemisphere and English-speaking Commonwealth countries, the overwhelming majority of adult natal males presenting with gender dysphoria are of the autogynephilic type”.

AGP drove my own transsexualism. But in a debate where the condition is simultaneously denied and monstered, it is unsurprisingly also misunderstood. Stock described it as a fetish and suggested that it was likely to be influenced by pornography. While it might exhibit itself in fetishistic behaviour and be fed by porn, my experience of AGP extends back to my earliest memories. If I was not born with this pervading condition, it had gripped me by age three.

More than 50 years later, I can still picture the scene. I was learning to count beyond 20, and quickly picked up the pattern — 30, 40, 50 — and the repetition. But by the time we got to 60, a chill ran down my spine. We would soon be at 80 — a word sounded similar to “tights”, clothing that I knew was only for girls.

Why this was such a taboo for me, and at such an early age, I don’t know. Clearly I understood the difference between boys and girls; I knew I was a boy, and I knew that we wore different clothes. But I wanted to wear girls’ clothes, something I knew was forbidden. I cannot remember being told such things, but nobody had told me how to breathe either, or know how to feel hungry or thirsty, or go to sleep when I was tired. But every other sexually dimorphic species needs to know the difference between the sexes without being schooled on it. Why should human beings be different?

Clothes were the issue for me throughout childhood. But I had no sisters and I had to make do with my own fantasy world. During primary school, however, I stumbled upon two opportunities to turn that fantasy into reality. I remember them like oases in a desert.

First, there was a village fete where my ladybird costume involved wearing a tight black jumper and black tights. The red papier-mâché on my back was incidental. Adrenaline overwhelmed me, but I was too ashamed to tell anyone. I was probably aged six. Three years later, a school Christmas play offered another cross-dressing opportunity. Nothing special – I was a carol singer – but for some long forgotten reason, the boys were dressed the same as the girls. But by then I was imprisoned by my own fear and never took the message home. My costume was never made and I played my role in mufti.

In those days, an interest in clothes of the opposite sex was labelled as transvesitism, something distinct from transsexualism, a compulsion to be the opposite sex. But in reality, the two conditions are not so easy to separate. Transvestites may have been ridiculed, while transsexuals were pitied, but there is truth behind an old joke in the trans community: What’s the difference between a transvestite and a transsexual? About five years.

These days it seems that we are all transwomen, which may remove the need for any demarcation, but also removes the need to think about AGP. However, while language may change, human nature remains the same from generation to generation. In a 2005 study of 2,450 Swedish adults, Långström and Zucker found that almost 3% of men “reported at least one episode of transvestic fetishism”. I wonder how many more did not report their furtive activities? Whatever the truth, this behaviour appears to be rather more common than the 0.3% to 0.7% “tentatively” estimated by the UK government in 2018.

My experience alone suggests that boys wrestle with AGP long before puberty. But it was during adolescence when my long-running fantasy — usually of waking up to find myself magically transformed into the other sex — became a compulsion to start buying female clothes. By the time I was 16, I would travel to neighbouring towns, buy what I could and squirrel my purchases away in intricate, secure hiding places. Being discovered was the most shameful thing I could imagine. At no point did pornography play a part — this was the Eighties and I had no access to it. The compulsion came from within: my thoughts were driven by my own nature.

Life is very different for children growing up today, and not always in a good way. Transitioning was never an option for me as a child so it was futile to go beyond dreaming about it. Instead, my energies were directed into my studies and my relationships — and keeping my AGP well hidden. The mental stress was incessant.

But I endured. I eventually married a woman, and we had three children. Those four people mean the world to me. Autogynephilia drifted in and out of remission but it never took over. At least not until the internet connected me to other people who had transitioned and had made it work. These were not the exotic transsexuals that I had read about in the Sunday People — high-life celebs who had sex-changes in Casablanca. They were people just like me — engineers, medics, teachers even — who had gone to their GPs to ask for a referral to an NHS gender clinic. When I knew that medical and surgical transition was possible, it rapidly became irresistible.

But what opened up to me in mid-life, now beckons to children. I worry about both sexes. In her superb book Irreversible Damage, Abigail Shrier explores on the transgender contagion among teenage girls. But what about boys particularly those struggling with AGP? These days they might be adorned with new labels — trans girls — but the condition is the same. Who is looking out for them? Who is counselling those who come forwards, and how are they being counselled? I cannot do it — I am no therapist — and I firmly believe all AGP adults, indeed all transsexuals, should stay clear. We come with our own baggage and children need to be able to focus on their own issues when they see a counsellor.

When I was young, I coped because I had to cope. What alternative was there? But it would have helped me to know what was really going on. The tragedy is that the current generation of AGP boys are none the wiser. Either they are cooped up behind the same walls of shame and guilt that constrained me 40 years ago. Or they have been affirmed as “transgirls”. Or they are simply at a loss to understand themselves, feeling like an introvert among a party of extroverts.

These boys need help to understand themselves. Let’s not amplify their daydreams — fantasy does not become reality. But let’s not embarrass or monster them either. We need to be honest: autogynephilia is a psychological condition that we just have to live with. Some may end up transitioning in the end — we cannot put that particular internet genie back in the box — but that is a decision for adults to take, not children. If first do no harm, then second, let them at least grow up.


Debbie Hayton

Debbie Hayton is a teacher and a transgender campaigner.

* This article was first published by Unherd on 9 May 2022: My autogynephilia story.

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17 replies on “My autogynephilia story”

The term “autogynephilia” doesn’t really explain anything. It is one of those medical terms that gives a name to a collection of symptoms or behaviors, and in so doing hopes to shed some light on them. So now we can say things like, “Bruce Jenner has autogynephilia”, as if that explains why this former athlete and macho man is now running around in high heels and silk dresses. Personally, I believe in reincarnation. In children I see the undeniable character traits they exhibit as evidence that they have lived before — that’s my explanation for transgenderism in children.

Debbie’s description of her childhood is so convincing that it almost convinces me that children should have the right to transition — but there are just too many of them who are imitating what they see, or otherwise want to transition for the wrong reasons. Children must be allowed to grow up naturally, and then, as adults, decide what to do.

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Thank you. But, actually, I don’t think that we should be socially transitioning children. I think AGP is one of several real psychological conditions that can lead to the distress that we call gender dysphoria. But we are not the opposite sex, and I don’t think it is helpful to pretend that we are.

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Thank you for sharing that account, Debbie. I imagine it took some courage. I’ll add a few thoughts, partly informed by my past work as an addictions therapist.

Autogynephilia may merge with transexualism at one extreme, or lead to it, as you suggest, and it may be seen as a “psychological condition”, a problem, but I think the definition could apply to perfectly healthy behaviour too. For example, heterosexual couples not uncommonly indulge in a bit of transvestism, and its appeal is not only due to arousal by the partner’s attire, but by one’s own. This is a feature of all diagnosed conditions, that they lie towards the problematic end of a continuum, the other end of which is considered part of normal human behaviour.

Part of the problem with regard to the current explosion in “gender issues”, I think, is that we have developed an absolutist and binary understanding of sexual arousal (as well as gender). We imagine there are heterosexuals who are just aroused by the opposite sex, homosexuals by the same sex, and bisexuals by either, when in reality sexual response is complex. People respond to a wide range of arousal stimuli, many of them not even remotely to do with gender, only the extremes of which are documented (because they are pathologised or culturally shocking), while many of us have a range of milder turn-ons that we accept as “a bit of fun” or keep to ourselves from shame.

Breaking taboos is an exciting act in itself, and explains a great deal of fetishistic behaviour and problematic conditions such as sex addiction. As with other addictions, sometimes the shame of having engaged in the addictive behaviour can immediately reintroduce the tension that led to it. Addiction is commonly cured only when the addict finds healthier outlets for their emotional distress. This is true even without drug use, because our behaviour produces drugs naturally.

A lot of “women’s clothes” are designed to look sexy, and many are also tactile stimulants. As I’ve indicated before here, though, in reality, there aren’t “men’s clothes” and “women’s clothes”, the norms are just asserted and reinforced by the culture we live in. Hence the taboo of “cross-dressing” is a cultural problem – indeed, a cultural delusion – rather than a personal one, and the life trajectory of individuals will in part be due to how they manage to accommodate their predilection.

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Thank you for writing this. I have struggled with AGP since I was approximately 10. I didn’t know it as AGP until I was clinically diagnosed two-months ago. Now, happily married for almost 30 years, five kids later, here I am. My fantasy life is rich. I long for more, but what? IDK.

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Interesting that you were clinically diagnosed with AGP – I wasn’t aware that clinicians did that. I think it is what it is. I hope that knowing the truth helps you to be able to live with the truth.

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We started with the Myers Briggs testing. That led to me being referred to a local Psychiatrist. I had six sessions with him. During the third session, he pointed out patterns that ultimately led to an informal, but conclusive diagnosis of AGP. I feel … freed. A lifetime of questions answered. I am at peace. You are a part of this. Thank you.

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I think there is something in Myers Briggs. Not to pigeon hole people, but to explain why we are different and help us play to our strengths and work through our weaknesses. I’m ISTJ – and I like being ISTJ – and not being the life and soul of the party is just fine.

Good to be at peace with yourself. And understand yourself.

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This is the answer I have been waiting for. I have had AGT since I can remember as a very small boy. I enjoyed dressing in women’s silk underwear. This was back in the mid 60’s I was 5 years old. So whatever psychiatrist insists that porn is a driver, is way off base. I have been this way to this day. I did stop myself from continuing the practice because it was upsetting my wife. I have been with her for 39 years and two children. I still have the urge, but pray on GOD to give me strength to stop it. I have always been attracted to women, never men. I always enjoyed dressing in women’s clothing but, never had the urge to go out in public. It was something I enjoyed in my own home. I would go shopping and by myself lingerie and it was exciting. I enjoy being a male and never wanted to be a female except when dressing up. It would be more exciting if I was able to include my wife.

Thank you so much for this article, you have changed my life.

Greg

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Thank you, Greg, for your comment and for your candour. Autogynephilia is – I think – more common than many people realise. One study I have linked to in the past is authored Långström and Zucker. They found that that 2.8% of men reported at least on episode of what they called ‘transvestic fetishism’. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15859369/

I have described AGP as an inwardly directed form of male heterosexuality that – because no female partner is involved – leads to feedback loops. The effects can then be very public because the man has his own body on which to express his thoughts. At the same time other heterosexual men tend to project them mentally onto other people’s (women’s) bodies. But because those thoughts tend to remain in their own heads, they can be palusibly denied. I think that there is much plausible denial when it comes to men and their thoughts!

Finally, I do not think that porn causes AGP, rather it can reveal it. And it can certainly propel those feedback loops. But those hazards are common to all men with a male sex drive. I’ve written other pieces about AGP and it features in my book, Transsexual Apostate.

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Thank you!!! I am 16 years old and an AMAB your story is so similar to mine! It began at 10 watching TG TF comics and male to female animations and hypnosis and a strong desire to cross dress! That has stayed persistent with me hiding this in shame .. at age 14 I got told online that I may be trans gender due to wanting to be a girl. and looking back at this I thought they were right. Fast forward to age 15 and I got my own phone and bank account and a job. This was a disaster because I ended up spending nearly all my money on feminine clothes and hid it. At first there was an adrenaline and erotic rush to it. But slowly the erotic rush went away and it just feels right.

Now I only get the adrenaline rush when I buy new clothes and even then only minimal. I still to this day do this.

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Hello Davina,

I suspect that this is more common than we realise, but the shame keeps people from talking about it. You might find my book, Transsexual Apostate helpful because I spend a chapter talking about my early experiences, and in more detail than any of the pieces I have written.

Autogynephilia can have profound consequences because human beings cannot find fulfilment in themselves. I hope that you are able to find someone to whom you can talk about this in real life. Nobody else can get inside your head to feek what it is like but a good counsellor (or a very good friend) can help us understand ourselves.

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